The "First & Last of Everything" List

(updated 1/6/17)
 


Needless to say, this isn't a definitive "First Of/Last Of " list. It's limited to the horns that have come to
light since December 2005, with the additions of the trumpets listed on Jim Donaldson's site (with his
permission). This list is constantly changing, of course, but it tries to cover all the possibilities.
If I've left out a possible category please let me know.

Chicago Benge Models
The first medium-large bore Bb: #500
The first medium bore Bb: #631
The first medium-large bore cornet:
#897
The first large bore Bb:
#1501
The first large bore cornet:
#1581
The first medium-large bore C:
#2429*
The first C with a French bell: #2460*
The first D: #2470
The first D/Eb: #2575**
The last Chicago Benge: #3350
The last large bore Chicago Benge: #1700

* C trumpet #2285 appears to be a cut-down Bb with a French bell.
** #2565 did not originally have an Eb slide; one was made for it in the 1960s.

Burbank Benge Models
The first medium-large bore Bb: #3352
The first medium bore Bb: #3527
The first medium-large bore C: #3609
The first medium-large bore D/Eb: #3708
The first medium-large-plus bore Bb: #3885
The first medium-large-plus bore C: #4810
The first large bore Bb: #1705
The last large bore Bb in the numerical sequence: #1860
The first cornet: #4118
The first pocket trumpet: #6246

As above, the following is not a definitive list. For example, none of the large bore Burbanks
were actually stamped with a 6; that started with the Los Angeles Benges. The first edition of the
Benge brochure (from the mid-1960s) didn't even list the L bores as a 6X! The list was as follows:
M, 2X, 2XP, 3X, 3XP, 4X, 5X, L. By the second edition (1971) the M bore was listed as a 1X
and the L as a 6X, but before 1970 or so it seemed enough just to stamp an M or an L on the horn.
The same goes for the 3X model, as, technically, the first 3X would have been a Chicago medium
large bore trumpet with the smaller bell. The 3 was not stamped on Burbanks until well into the
process; an unnumbered horn was assumed to be a 3X. At this point I'm trying to discern the points
at which the model number was stamped on the actual trumpets. On a Burbank Benge, the place to look is the ferrule that joins the bell to the 1st valve casing; it's at the very bottom of the instrument.
The original stamps included an X (2X, 3X, 5X), but eventually they stopped stamping the letter
and just went with the number (2, 3, 5). The earliest trumpet stamped in that manner (to date) is
#4115, and the latest horn stamped (so far) with an X is #5163. They stopped using the X between
#5163 and #5166.
The medium bore (1X) and large bore (6X) horns were not stamped as such until the Los Angeles
years. The only MLP 5X to surface (#4115) must have been a special order or a prototype, as this
combination was never advertised. The same with #4810 and #5739, which were MLP 1Cs.

Bb Trumpets
Stamped and Unstamped Instruments
(Burbanks)
The first 1X:
#3527
The first 2X:
#3830
The first 2X+:
#4855
The first 3X:
#3352
The first 3X+:
#3935
The first 4X:
#5157
The first 5X:
#3735
The first 6X: #1705

Stamped Instruments (Burbanks)
The first 1X:
no Bb that I know of
The first 2X:
#4603
The first 2X+:
#4855
The first 3X:
#4596
The first 3X+:
#5190
The first 4X:
#5157
The first 5X:
#4694
The first 5X+: #4115
The first 6X: none that I know of

#3527, #4188, #6453 are the only medium-bore Burbank Bbs to surface so far, although none of
these were stamped with a 1. All large bores are, essentially, 6Xs, but none were stamped that way
until after the move from Burbank.

C Trumpets
Stamped and Unstamped Instruments
(Burbanks)
The first 1C:
#6592
The first 1C+: #4810
The first 2C: #4781
The first 2C+: #4870
The first 3C: As far as I can tell, the renaming of the 2C+ to the 3C occurred during the transition
from Burbank to Los Angeles. The 1971 catalog (from Olive St. in Los Angeles), lists a 1C, 2C
and 3C, with the 3C being an MLP. I have not yet found a MLP Burbank C trumpet stamped with a 3;
I've also never found a Los Angeles MLP C trumpet stamped with a 2. However, I would not be
surprised to find some transitional horns that did not fit this pattern.

Stamped Instruments (Burbanks)
The first 1C:
#6592 (#5739 is stamped 1C, but it's a special-order MLP trumpet)
The first 1C+: #4810 (stamped with a 1X; the only 1X stamp so far)
The first 2C: #5722
The first 2C+: #5196


The Street Address
The last Burbank bell with a street address:
#8281
The first Burbank bell without a street address: #8280
The last Burbank bell without a street address: #8380

Then they put the address back on the bell...
The next Burbank bells with a street address: #8390 & #8391
Then they took it off for #8396.

Some have estimated the amount of Burbanks with no street address to be @400 horns;
I don't see it. Donald Benge put the number at 50-60 horns; my guess is @100 instruments.
They're much rarer than was previously thought! Things seemed to get a bit inconsistent during the
transition, as #8391 has the street address but #8396 does not. On top of that, #8384 is an LA Benge.

The last Burbank bell:
#8396

Los Angeles Benge Models
The first Los Angeles Benge:
#8384
The first Claude Gordon model: #9227
The first LA D:
#8655
The first LA D/Eb: #9518
The first cornet:
#8851
The first large bore cornet: #10776
The first 6X (actually stamped with a 6):
#9230
The first flugelhorn: #17708
The first piccolo trumpet:
#24127 (there is also a piccolo with a serial number of #01958)
The first pocket trumpet: #8890
The first Claude Gordon pocket trumpet: #12186
The first herald trumpet: #9470
The first 1X: #10828
The first 4X:
#11047
The first 7X: #41425

The first 1C: #11695
The first 2C:
#20856
The first 3C:
#10138
(The LA 3C is the same as the Burbank 2X+.)

The first FL-1 flugel:
#18429
The first FL-3 flugel: #19497
The first FL-5 flugel: #17708

The first 3X piccolo trumpet: #25601
The first 5X piccolo trumpet:
#24127

The first 3Z cornet: #23779
The first 6Z cornet: #19675
The first 8Z cornet: #29497

The 3Z was a long-model (no shepherd's crook) medium-large bore cornet.
The 6Z was a long-model (no shepherd's crook) large bore cornet.
The 8Z was a shepherd's crook model large bore cornet.

I'd especially like to narrow down the point at which the bells, instead of the ferrules, were first
stamped with numbers. Again, this is only a list of the horns that have come to light; please contact
me if you have an instrument that would make this list more accurate. It seems that there was not a
clear point at which the change took place, based on #19286, which had a custom-engraved bell,
and so left the factory later than horns with a similar number.

The latest ferrule with a number:
Bb trumpet:
#19286 (#19840 has a stamp on both the bell and the ferrule)
C trumpet:
#20856 (it has a stamp on both the bell and the ferrule)
Flugelhorn:
#21095 (it has a stamp on both the bell and the ferrule)

The first bell with a number:
#18988

Other than the earliest horns, Claude Gordon models, in general, have neither a bell number
nor a ferrule stamp. The latest CG with a ferrule stamp (so far) is #20000. The only two CGs
with a 6 stamped on the bell appear to be from the last batch of LA Claude Gordons so far:
#42736 & #42746. I would assume that all the horns in between would be the same.

The first bell with a 1:
#28465 (flugelhorn); #37718 (Bb trumpet)
The first bell with a 2:
#19833 (Bb trumpet); #20856 (C trumpet)
The first bell with a 3:
#18988 (Bb trumpet); #23779 (cornet); #24052 (flugelhorn); #24140 (piccolo)
The first bell with a 4:
#25034 (Bb trumpet)
The first bell with a 5:
#19531 (flugelhorn); #20174 (Bb trumpet); #24127 (piccolo)
The first bell with a 6:
#19675 (cornet); #19684 (Bb trumpet)
The first bell with a 7:
#41425 (Bb trumpet)
The first bell with a 8: #29497 (cornet)

The first medium bore C:
none that I know of
The first large bore C: none that I know of

The only six-digit LA Benges (so far): #213592 & #956591
These horns, a 3X and a 7X (large-plus bore) have LA bells and BENGE stamped on the bottom of
the 2nd valve casings, as opposed to "USA," which is stamped on the Eastlake horns.
#960091 (a 3) and #960105 (a 3X+) have LA bells but USA stamped on the 2nd valves.
#960229 (a 5X) has USA on both the bell and the 2nd valve casing. More examples of differing
models will be needed in order to get a handle on this transition.

The last bells stamped 'Los Angeles' (with BENGE stamped on the 2nd valve casing)
Categories
Bb: #43348 (and #956591)
C: #37017
Cornet: #42006
Flugel: #42331
Piccolo: #42384
Pocket:
#43244
Herald:
#33963

Sub-categories
Bb
1X:
#37718
2X: #41638
2X+: #40472
3X: #43348 (and #213592)
3X+: #43206
4X: #43237
5X: #43138
6X: #42150
7X: #42950 (and #956591)
CG: #42746

C
1C:
* no ML C trumpets with the "French" bell, made in LA, have yet to surface
2C:
#37017
3C:
#35779

Cornet
3Z: #42006
6Z: #40409
8Z: #40967

Flugelhorn
FL-1: #38158
FL-3: #42331
FL-5: #42153

Piccolo
3X Piccolo: #25601
5X Piccolo: #42384

Transition Horns
The was some overlap of numbers between bells stamped "Los Angeles, California"
and those stamped "USA." That makes sense, as the specialty horns (anything but a Bb)
were made in batches, but not fully assembled until an order was placed. For this transition I choose
to go with the stamping on the 2nd valve casing. If it's stamped BENGE the casing was made in
California. If USA, then Ohio. I label these instruments "transition horns." I include them in the LA Benge
spreadsheet, noting that they were likely fully assembled in Eastlake, OH. All of these horns have USA stamped on the bell and BENGE stamped on the 2nd valve casing.

The first bells stamped 'USA':
#41506 (FL-3)
#42298 (FL-5)
#42204 (piccolo)
#42633 (CG)
#42974 (3X+)
#43128 (3X)
#43366 (D/Eb)

I have not yet found a five-digit Benge USA Bb trumpet. The earliest that I've run across is #106047,
said to have been originally purchased in December 1985. I welcome further input.

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